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Silas Abrahamsen's avatar

Interesting argument! I wouldn't want to wed myself to this move, but what do you think of redefining omnipotence as something like: "S is omnipotent iff necessarily, if S wants X to happen, then X happens."

Here an omnibenevolent God would clearly be omnipotent. And "if God wanted to torture a cat, he could do it" is a counterpossible. It's not clear to me whether counterpossibles can serve as counterexamples in this kind of case, but even if they can, I think this one would be true.

You make the argument about Debbie the Democrat, but I don't think that's obvious. The question is whether the closest impossible world to the one where God wants to torture a cat is one in which he wants to do so and succeeds, or one in which he wants to do so and doesn't succeed. The latter would not just compromise God's omnibenevolence but also his omnipotence, where the former would only compromise his benevolence. I find the point about benevolence not just depending on trying your best, but actually succeeding, sort of iffy. But even if that's right, that small extra failure of omnibenevolence seems like much less of a difference than God not being able to succeed in something when he tries. I haven't thought too much about counterpossibles, but trying to evaluate them seems sort of fraught anyways.

I guess the biggest problem with this proposal would be that if there is some possible agent for whom it's essential that they only want things to happen that actually happen, then they would be omnipotent. But then I don't know if there is any possible agent like that (that is, one which not only wants only what happens in their actual world, but in all worlds they are in.)

Again, I don't want to put too much stock in this, I just thought it might be an interesting proposal.

Ibrahim Dagher's avatar

The article is very nice! But I must confess that I think the argument itself isn’t great and shouldn’t convince most theists. I think I’ll write up a reply post since that will be more fruitful, but I will note here that you should be aware that your premise (5) is actually a well known principle in philosophy called Poss-Ability (haha get it?). I think there are really strong totally independent reasons to reject Poss-Ability, and indeed atheists have argued against it in the literature. I’ll go into more depth in a post, but thank you for a wonderful article. Hope everyone else enjoyed it as much as I did!

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